Let us all hope that the entire household at 7900 Ariel Way is mulling over each and every post. Was Victor’s glance a glare or a wistful cry for help? Or, both?
If they ARE, let’s hope the prosecution is doing the same. And CERTAINLY within the past 24 hours.
Nelly
15 years ago
It disgusts me to hear that the defendants are all smiles and surrounded by their delusional supporters, and their attorneys are cracking jokes with court staff. It’s a good thing I’m not there to smack em upside the head. A person was murdered and although they can’t bring themselves to show any remorse, they should at least have some respect for Robert Wone’s widow and family.
I wonder how Kathy Wone is holding up, and I wonder if she knows about the wildly conflicting and obviously fabricated statements that Joe Price (Robert’s old pal and pallbearer ~ am I remembering that right?) gave to the police the night her husband was assaulted and murdered. I will say that if she ever had a tiny twinge of doubt that these men were lying about the horrific death of Robert and were seeking to conceal the truth about what happened to him she need not worry on that account any longer. Two statements in a few hours to authorities, each more fantastic than the next.
I am interested too by accounts of smiling supporters for the trouple; are they all believers in the elves theory of this crime? How do they handle the cognitive dissonance without their heads exploding?
CDinDC
15 years ago
From Tweets: “Crowd lighter than usual.”
Are they loosing their supporters? Will there be any supporters left in courtroom by the time the trial is upon us?
Ditto that. I can’t wait for further information re Joe’s alleged conflicting statement (how could this not have surfaced before now? do you have the statement itself? I’m dying over here), the judge’s limitations on what theories the prosecution may present (basis/rationale?), etc. Thank you so much. I don’t know how you juggle this and regular work. I’m grateful, indebted, curious, and eager!
Anonymous Friend says: “the judge’s limitations on what theories the prosecution may present (basis/rationale?)”
I’m really curious about this. Legal team?
Does this have anything to do with the fact that this is NOT a murder trial? Is the judge, perhaps, trying to parse out tampering/conspiracy/obstruction matters from possible murder trial matters? Could this help prevent any kind of double jeopardy issues? Is this beneficial or detrimental prosecution?
Until I can see the motions, transcript of the hearing, and the actual order, I cannot say whom it will benefit or explain the rationale of the judge. Remember, too, that a lot can take place outside of the public view in bench conferences, motions filed under seal, etc.
As far as excluding evidence of a paralytic, blame that one on the ME. The burden is always on the government, and the ME is an agent of the government (prosecution) in fact if not in theory. I would be willing to be my license (the inactive one anyway) that she did not notice the needle marks right away or at least did not perceive their significance right away. The autopsy photos will be very revealing in that respect.
I hate to sound like a broken record, but the accuracy of the autopsy will be hotly contested, as will other forensics.
CDinDC
15 years ago
I just read the Legal Times post about the case. My god. What is Weisberg thinking? “There is no indication of a lot of things,” he says.
From the article: “….Judge Frederick Weisberg said that he is “most reluctant” to let prosecutors argue that Wone was injected with a paralytic drug if the government is unable to put up more evidence to support the theory.”
That’s like saying if you can’t tell us what kind of knife the assailant used, then the fact that he was stabbed is inadmissable.
This is insane.
CDinDC
15 years ago
Re this tweet: “Wone family arrives. Zaborsky gives us a glance. Conncolly, spagnoletti, schertler huddling. We take our seats soon.”
I have to wonder if Victor knows who he’s looking at. They probably read the blog all the time.
Let us all hope that the entire household at 7900 Ariel Way is mulling over each and every post. Was Victor’s glance a glare or a wistful cry for help? Or, both?
If they ARE, let’s hope the prosecution is doing the same. And CERTAINLY within the past 24 hours.
Nelly
15 years ago
It disgusts me to hear that the defendants are all smiles and surrounded by their delusional supporters, and their attorneys are cracking jokes with court staff. It’s a good thing I’m not there to smack em upside the head. A person was murdered and although they can’t bring themselves to show any remorse, they should at least have some respect for Robert Wone’s widow and family.
I wonder how Kathy Wone is holding up, and I wonder if she knows about the wildly conflicting and obviously fabricated statements that Joe Price (Robert’s old pal and pallbearer ~ am I remembering that right?) gave to the police the night her husband was assaulted and murdered. I will say that if she ever had a tiny twinge of doubt that these men were lying about the horrific death of Robert and were seeking to conceal the truth about what happened to him she need not worry on that account any longer. Two statements in a few hours to authorities, each more fantastic than the next.
I am interested too by accounts of smiling supporters for the trouple; are they all believers in the elves theory of this crime? How do they handle the cognitive dissonance without their heads exploding?
CDinDC
15 years ago
From Tweets: “Crowd lighter than usual.”
Are they loosing their supporters? Will there be any supporters left in courtroom by the time the trial is upon us?
Ditto that. I can’t wait for further information re Joe’s alleged conflicting statement (how could this not have surfaced before now? do you have the statement itself? I’m dying over here), the judge’s limitations on what theories the prosecution may present (basis/rationale?), etc. Thank you so much. I don’t know how you juggle this and regular work. I’m grateful, indebted, curious, and eager!
Anonymous Friend says: “the judge’s limitations on what theories the prosecution may present (basis/rationale?)”
I’m really curious about this. Legal team?
Does this have anything to do with the fact that this is NOT a murder trial? Is the judge, perhaps, trying to parse out tampering/conspiracy/obstruction matters from possible murder trial matters? Could this help prevent any kind of double jeopardy issues? Is this beneficial or detrimental prosecution?
Until I can see the motions, transcript of the hearing, and the actual order, I cannot say whom it will benefit or explain the rationale of the judge. Remember, too, that a lot can take place outside of the public view in bench conferences, motions filed under seal, etc.
As far as excluding evidence of a paralytic, blame that one on the ME. The burden is always on the government, and the ME is an agent of the government (prosecution) in fact if not in theory. I would be willing to be my license (the inactive one anyway) that she did not notice the needle marks right away or at least did not perceive their significance right away. The autopsy photos will be very revealing in that respect.
I hate to sound like a broken record, but the accuracy of the autopsy will be hotly contested, as will other forensics.
CDinDC
15 years ago
I just read the Legal Times post about the case. My god. What is Weisberg thinking? “There is no indication of a lot of things,” he says.
From the article: “….Judge Frederick Weisberg said that he is “most reluctant” to let prosecutors argue that Wone was injected with a paralytic drug if the government is unable to put up more evidence to support the theory.”
That’s like saying if you can’t tell us what kind of knife the assailant used, then the fact that he was stabbed is inadmissable.
This is insane.
CDinDC
15 years ago
Re this tweet: “Wone family arrives. Zaborsky gives us a glance. Conncolly, spagnoletti, schertler huddling. We take our seats soon.”
I have to wonder if Victor knows who he’s looking at. They probably read the blog all the time.
Let us all hope that the entire household at 7900 Ariel Way is mulling over each and every post. Was Victor’s glance a glare or a wistful cry for help? Or, both?
If they ARE, let’s hope the prosecution is doing the same. And CERTAINLY within the past 24 hours.
Nelly
15 years ago
It disgusts me to hear that the defendants are all smiles and surrounded by their delusional supporters, and their attorneys are cracking jokes with court staff. It’s a good thing I’m not there to smack em upside the head. A person was murdered and although they can’t bring themselves to show any remorse, they should at least have some respect for Robert Wone’s widow and family.
I wonder how Kathy Wone is holding up, and I wonder if she knows about the wildly conflicting and obviously fabricated statements that Joe Price (Robert’s old pal and pallbearer ~ am I remembering that right?) gave to the police the night her husband was assaulted and murdered. I will say that if she ever had a tiny twinge of doubt that these men were lying about the horrific death of Robert and were seeking to conceal the truth about what happened to him she need not worry on that account any longer. Two statements in a few hours to authorities, each more fantastic than the next.
I am interested too by accounts of smiling supporters for the trouple; are they all believers in the elves theory of this crime? How do they handle the cognitive dissonance without their heads exploding?
CDinDC
15 years ago
From Tweets: “Crowd lighter than usual.”
Are they loosing their supporters? Will there be any supporters left in courtroom by the time the trial is upon us?
Ditto that. I can’t wait for further information re Joe’s alleged conflicting statement (how could this not have surfaced before now? do you have the statement itself? I’m dying over here), the judge’s limitations on what theories the prosecution may present (basis/rationale?), etc. Thank you so much. I don’t know how you juggle this and regular work. I’m grateful, indebted, curious, and eager!
Anonymous Friend says: “the judge’s limitations on what theories the prosecution may present (basis/rationale?)”
I’m really curious about this. Legal team?
Does this have anything to do with the fact that this is NOT a murder trial? Is the judge, perhaps, trying to parse out tampering/conspiracy/obstruction matters from possible murder trial matters? Could this help prevent any kind of double jeopardy issues? Is this beneficial or detrimental prosecution?
Until I can see the motions, transcript of the hearing, and the actual order, I cannot say whom it will benefit or explain the rationale of the judge. Remember, too, that a lot can take place outside of the public view in bench conferences, motions filed under seal, etc.
As far as excluding evidence of a paralytic, blame that one on the ME. The burden is always on the government, and the ME is an agent of the government (prosecution) in fact if not in theory. I would be willing to be my license (the inactive one anyway) that she did not notice the needle marks right away or at least did not perceive their significance right away. The autopsy photos will be very revealing in that respect.
I hate to sound like a broken record, but the accuracy of the autopsy will be hotly contested, as will other forensics.
CDinDC
15 years ago
I just read the Legal Times post about the case. My god. What is Weisberg thinking? “There is no indication of a lot of things,” he says.
From the article: “….Judge Frederick Weisberg said that he is “most reluctant” to let prosecutors argue that Wone was injected with a paralytic drug if the government is unable to put up more evidence to support the theory.”
That’s like saying if you can’t tell us what kind of knife the assailant used, then the fact that he was stabbed is inadmissable.
Re this tweet: “Wone family arrives. Zaborsky gives us a glance. Conncolly, spagnoletti, schertler huddling. We take our seats soon.”
I have to wonder if Victor knows who he’s looking at. They probably read the blog all the time.
Let us all hope that the entire household at 7900 Ariel Way is mulling over each and every post. Was Victor’s glance a glare or a wistful cry for help? Or, both?
If they ARE, let’s hope the prosecution is doing the same. And CERTAINLY within the past 24 hours.
It disgusts me to hear that the defendants are all smiles and surrounded by their delusional supporters, and their attorneys are cracking jokes with court staff. It’s a good thing I’m not there to smack em upside the head. A person was murdered and although they can’t bring themselves to show any remorse, they should at least have some respect for Robert Wone’s widow and family.
Absolutely, Nelly. I had the feelings. Complete disrespect.
AMEN to that!
I wonder if Dylan’s parents were there.
I wonder how Kathy Wone is holding up, and I wonder if she knows about the wildly conflicting and obviously fabricated statements that Joe Price (Robert’s old pal and pallbearer ~ am I remembering that right?) gave to the police the night her husband was assaulted and murdered. I will say that if she ever had a tiny twinge of doubt that these men were lying about the horrific death of Robert and were seeking to conceal the truth about what happened to him she need not worry on that account any longer. Two statements in a few hours to authorities, each more fantastic than the next.
I am interested too by accounts of smiling supporters for the trouple; are they all believers in the elves theory of this crime? How do they handle the cognitive dissonance without their heads exploding?
From Tweets: “Crowd lighter than usual.”
Are they loosing their supporters? Will there be any supporters left in courtroom by the time the trial is upon us?
“crowd lighter than usual” — same cannot be said for defendant attorney price. still looks like he needs a laxative, post haste.
Eds – We are with you in spirit since we cannot be in the room with you – thanks much for being there and reporting back.
Ditto that. I can’t wait for further information re Joe’s alleged conflicting statement (how could this not have surfaced before now? do you have the statement itself? I’m dying over here), the judge’s limitations on what theories the prosecution may present (basis/rationale?), etc. Thank you so much. I don’t know how you juggle this and regular work. I’m grateful, indebted, curious, and eager!
Anonymous Friend says: “the judge’s limitations on what theories the prosecution may present (basis/rationale?)”
I’m really curious about this. Legal team?
Does this have anything to do with the fact that this is NOT a murder trial? Is the judge, perhaps, trying to parse out tampering/conspiracy/obstruction matters from possible murder trial matters? Could this help prevent any kind of double jeopardy issues? Is this beneficial or detrimental prosecution?
Is this beneficial or detrimental to the prosecution?
Until I can see the motions, transcript of the hearing, and the actual order, I cannot say whom it will benefit or explain the rationale of the judge. Remember, too, that a lot can take place outside of the public view in bench conferences, motions filed under seal, etc.
As far as excluding evidence of a paralytic, blame that one on the ME. The burden is always on the government, and the ME is an agent of the government (prosecution) in fact if not in theory. I would be willing to be my license (the inactive one anyway) that she did not notice the needle marks right away or at least did not perceive their significance right away. The autopsy photos will be very revealing in that respect.
I hate to sound like a broken record, but the accuracy of the autopsy will be hotly contested, as will other forensics.
I just read the Legal Times post about the case. My god. What is Weisberg thinking? “There is no indication of a lot of things,” he says.
From the article: “….Judge Frederick Weisberg said that he is “most reluctant” to let prosecutors argue that Wone was injected with a paralytic drug if the government is unable to put up more evidence to support the theory.”
That’s like saying if you can’t tell us what kind of knife the assailant used, then the fact that he was stabbed is inadmissable.
This is insane.
Re this tweet: “Wone family arrives. Zaborsky gives us a glance. Conncolly, spagnoletti, schertler huddling. We take our seats soon.”
I have to wonder if Victor knows who he’s looking at. They probably read the blog all the time.
Let us all hope that the entire household at 7900 Ariel Way is mulling over each and every post. Was Victor’s glance a glare or a wistful cry for help? Or, both?
If they ARE, let’s hope the prosecution is doing the same. And CERTAINLY within the past 24 hours.
It disgusts me to hear that the defendants are all smiles and surrounded by their delusional supporters, and their attorneys are cracking jokes with court staff. It’s a good thing I’m not there to smack em upside the head. A person was murdered and although they can’t bring themselves to show any remorse, they should at least have some respect for Robert Wone’s widow and family.
Absolutely, Nelly. I had the feelings. Complete disrespect.
AMEN to that!
I wonder if Dylan’s parents were there.
I wonder how Kathy Wone is holding up, and I wonder if she knows about the wildly conflicting and obviously fabricated statements that Joe Price (Robert’s old pal and pallbearer ~ am I remembering that right?) gave to the police the night her husband was assaulted and murdered. I will say that if she ever had a tiny twinge of doubt that these men were lying about the horrific death of Robert and were seeking to conceal the truth about what happened to him she need not worry on that account any longer. Two statements in a few hours to authorities, each more fantastic than the next.
I am interested too by accounts of smiling supporters for the trouple; are they all believers in the elves theory of this crime? How do they handle the cognitive dissonance without their heads exploding?
From Tweets: “Crowd lighter than usual.”
Are they loosing their supporters? Will there be any supporters left in courtroom by the time the trial is upon us?
“crowd lighter than usual” — same cannot be said for defendant attorney price. still looks like he needs a laxative, post haste.
Eds – We are with you in spirit since we cannot be in the room with you – thanks much for being there and reporting back.
Ditto that. I can’t wait for further information re Joe’s alleged conflicting statement (how could this not have surfaced before now? do you have the statement itself? I’m dying over here), the judge’s limitations on what theories the prosecution may present (basis/rationale?), etc. Thank you so much. I don’t know how you juggle this and regular work. I’m grateful, indebted, curious, and eager!
Anonymous Friend says: “the judge’s limitations on what theories the prosecution may present (basis/rationale?)”
I’m really curious about this. Legal team?
Does this have anything to do with the fact that this is NOT a murder trial? Is the judge, perhaps, trying to parse out tampering/conspiracy/obstruction matters from possible murder trial matters? Could this help prevent any kind of double jeopardy issues? Is this beneficial or detrimental prosecution?
Is this beneficial or detrimental to the prosecution?
Until I can see the motions, transcript of the hearing, and the actual order, I cannot say whom it will benefit or explain the rationale of the judge. Remember, too, that a lot can take place outside of the public view in bench conferences, motions filed under seal, etc.
As far as excluding evidence of a paralytic, blame that one on the ME. The burden is always on the government, and the ME is an agent of the government (prosecution) in fact if not in theory. I would be willing to be my license (the inactive one anyway) that she did not notice the needle marks right away or at least did not perceive their significance right away. The autopsy photos will be very revealing in that respect.
I hate to sound like a broken record, but the accuracy of the autopsy will be hotly contested, as will other forensics.
I just read the Legal Times post about the case. My god. What is Weisberg thinking? “There is no indication of a lot of things,” he says.
From the article: “….Judge Frederick Weisberg said that he is “most reluctant” to let prosecutors argue that Wone was injected with a paralytic drug if the government is unable to put up more evidence to support the theory.”
That’s like saying if you can’t tell us what kind of knife the assailant used, then the fact that he was stabbed is inadmissable.
This is insane.
Re this tweet: “Wone family arrives. Zaborsky gives us a glance. Conncolly, spagnoletti, schertler huddling. We take our seats soon.”
I have to wonder if Victor knows who he’s looking at. They probably read the blog all the time.
Let us all hope that the entire household at 7900 Ariel Way is mulling over each and every post. Was Victor’s glance a glare or a wistful cry for help? Or, both?
If they ARE, let’s hope the prosecution is doing the same. And CERTAINLY within the past 24 hours.
It disgusts me to hear that the defendants are all smiles and surrounded by their delusional supporters, and their attorneys are cracking jokes with court staff. It’s a good thing I’m not there to smack em upside the head. A person was murdered and although they can’t bring themselves to show any remorse, they should at least have some respect for Robert Wone’s widow and family.
Absolutely, Nelly. I had the feelings. Complete disrespect.
AMEN to that!
I wonder if Dylan’s parents were there.
I wonder how Kathy Wone is holding up, and I wonder if she knows about the wildly conflicting and obviously fabricated statements that Joe Price (Robert’s old pal and pallbearer ~ am I remembering that right?) gave to the police the night her husband was assaulted and murdered. I will say that if she ever had a tiny twinge of doubt that these men were lying about the horrific death of Robert and were seeking to conceal the truth about what happened to him she need not worry on that account any longer. Two statements in a few hours to authorities, each more fantastic than the next.
I am interested too by accounts of smiling supporters for the trouple; are they all believers in the elves theory of this crime? How do they handle the cognitive dissonance without their heads exploding?
From Tweets: “Crowd lighter than usual.”
Are they loosing their supporters? Will there be any supporters left in courtroom by the time the trial is upon us?
“crowd lighter than usual” — same cannot be said for defendant attorney price. still looks like he needs a laxative, post haste.
Eds – We are with you in spirit since we cannot be in the room with you – thanks much for being there and reporting back.
Ditto that. I can’t wait for further information re Joe’s alleged conflicting statement (how could this not have surfaced before now? do you have the statement itself? I’m dying over here), the judge’s limitations on what theories the prosecution may present (basis/rationale?), etc. Thank you so much. I don’t know how you juggle this and regular work. I’m grateful, indebted, curious, and eager!
Anonymous Friend says: “the judge’s limitations on what theories the prosecution may present (basis/rationale?)”
I’m really curious about this. Legal team?
Does this have anything to do with the fact that this is NOT a murder trial? Is the judge, perhaps, trying to parse out tampering/conspiracy/obstruction matters from possible murder trial matters? Could this help prevent any kind of double jeopardy issues? Is this beneficial or detrimental prosecution?
Is this beneficial or detrimental to the prosecution?
Until I can see the motions, transcript of the hearing, and the actual order, I cannot say whom it will benefit or explain the rationale of the judge. Remember, too, that a lot can take place outside of the public view in bench conferences, motions filed under seal, etc.
As far as excluding evidence of a paralytic, blame that one on the ME. The burden is always on the government, and the ME is an agent of the government (prosecution) in fact if not in theory. I would be willing to be my license (the inactive one anyway) that she did not notice the needle marks right away or at least did not perceive their significance right away. The autopsy photos will be very revealing in that respect.
I hate to sound like a broken record, but the accuracy of the autopsy will be hotly contested, as will other forensics.
I just read the Legal Times post about the case. My god. What is Weisberg thinking? “There is no indication of a lot of things,” he says.
From the article: “….Judge Frederick Weisberg said that he is “most reluctant” to let prosecutors argue that Wone was injected with a paralytic drug if the government is unable to put up more evidence to support the theory.”
That’s like saying if you can’t tell us what kind of knife the assailant used, then the fact that he was stabbed is inadmissable.
This is insane.