Comments for Who Murdered Robert Wone? http://whomurderedrobertwone.com Thu, 17 May 2012 13:01:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on Leggy Investigator by Bill Orange http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2012/05/14/leggy-investigator/comment-page-1/#comment-135471 Bill Orange Thu, 17 May 2012 13:01:01 +0000 http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/?p=19117#comment-135471 Curious that not even the media got her name. It just screams "fixer" to me. My opinion stands: She's trying to get the "suicide theory" out among distant friends of Wone and the defendants (particularly Price), as well as legal folks in DC and Virginia, and possibly the gay rights community, to try to pave some sort of way for the defendants (and again, Price in particular) to return from exile in Florida. I think the "no intruder" part is motivated not because the defense believed that there was no intruder, but rather because the judge concluded that there wasn't one. Note that the "suicide theory" is consistent with the judge's written ruling--no intruder, and at least one of the the defendants knows more than they're saying, in this case some evidence that this was indeed a suicide. Like Bea, I think it's all pure nonsense, but someone who knew only the vague details of the case--Wone died in Price and Zaborsky's house (*)--would probably think it was plausible. (*) Wone actually died in the hospital ER. It bears repeating that he was still alive in the ambulance and still alive on arrival at the ER, based on EKG results. Suggestion to the eds: Why not just call Grimm's office and ask who she is? You've posted two photos of her on your website already, and it seems like good journalism to call and ask for a name to go with the pictures. The response you get will probably tell you quite a bit about what's going on here. Curious that not even the media got her name. It just screams “fixer” to me. My opinion stands: She’s trying to get the “suicide theory” out among distant friends of Wone and the defendants (particularly Price), as well as legal folks in DC and Virginia, and possibly the gay rights community, to try to pave some sort of way for the defendants (and again, Price in particular) to return from exile in Florida.

I think the “no intruder” part is motivated not because the defense believed that there was no intruder, but rather because the judge concluded that there wasn’t one. Note that the “suicide theory” is consistent with the judge’s written ruling–no intruder, and at least one of the the defendants knows more than they’re saying, in this case some evidence that this was indeed a suicide.

Like Bea, I think it’s all pure nonsense, but someone who knew only the vague details of the case–Wone died in Price and Zaborsky’s house (*)–would probably think it was plausible.

(*) Wone actually died in the hospital ER. It bears repeating that he was still alive in the ambulance and still alive on arrival at the ER, based on EKG results.

Suggestion to the eds: Why not just call Grimm’s office and ask who she is? You’ve posted two photos of her on your website already, and it seems like good journalism to call and ask for a name to go with the pictures. The response you get will probably tell you quite a bit about what’s going on here.

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Comment on Leggy Investigator by christy love http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2012/05/14/leggy-investigator/comment-page-1/#comment-135407 christy love Thu, 17 May 2012 03:51:09 +0000 http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/?p=19117#comment-135407 Hi, This is off topic, do we have access to the trial transcripts? The whole trial. Thanks. Hi,

This is off topic, do we have access to the trial transcripts? The whole trial.

Thanks.

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Comment on Leggy Investigator by Boggled http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2012/05/14/leggy-investigator/comment-page-1/#comment-135402 Boggled Thu, 17 May 2012 02:59:41 +0000 http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/?p=19117#comment-135402 If you click on the photo instead of "unidentified defense team member" she becomes "MW". Any way of figuring out exactly who she is? If you click on the photo instead of “unidentified defense team member” she becomes “MW”. Any way of figuring out exactly who she is?

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Comment on Leggy Investigator by susan http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2012/05/14/leggy-investigator/comment-page-1/#comment-135400 susan Thu, 17 May 2012 02:45:45 +0000 http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/?p=19117#comment-135400 Hate to post again, but I read the ed's post and "Legs" version is just preposterous! It's really almost unworthy of comment it's so ridiculous. If Legs has any ulterior motive in spreading this delusion, I'll guess it's a noble one: It's to point out that she doesn't believe there was an intruder, to admit (via her theory) that her client is a liar, and finally, and most importantly, to point out how utterly absurd anything OTHER than murder is. Thank you, Legs! Hate to post again, but I read the ed’s post and “Legs” version is just preposterous! It’s really almost unworthy of comment it’s so ridiculous.

If Legs has any ulterior motive in spreading this delusion, I’ll guess it’s a noble one: It’s to point out that she doesn’t believe there was an intruder, to admit (via her theory) that her client is a liar, and finally, and most importantly, to point out how utterly absurd anything OTHER than murder is. Thank you, Legs!

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Comment on Leggy Investigator by susan http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2012/05/14/leggy-investigator/comment-page-1/#comment-135395 susan Thu, 17 May 2012 02:01:55 +0000 http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/?p=19117#comment-135395 And again: http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2010/06/24/day-22-updates/ And again: http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2010/06/24/day-22-updates/

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Comment on Leggy Investigator by susan http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2012/05/14/leggy-investigator/comment-page-1/#comment-135394 susan Thu, 17 May 2012 01:40:33 +0000 http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/?p=19117#comment-135394 The "leggy" one (also know as the "associate"). Scroll down for the pic. http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2010/05/19/dark-day/ The “leggy” one (also know as the “associate”). Scroll down for the pic.

http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2010/05/19/dark-day/

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Comment on Leggy Investigator by susan http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2012/05/14/leggy-investigator/comment-page-1/#comment-135393 susan Thu, 17 May 2012 01:34:13 +0000 http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/?p=19117#comment-135393 Bea and Bill O: Only an idiot would believe R. Wone committed suicide. There's nothing in the public record as we know it about his profile that would suggest his wanting to take his life. He's like the "anti-suicide" poster person (aside from the fact that he wasn't a contortionist or a super-being who could kill himself in the way he was murdered). But there's no reason to believe the woman is an idiot. So is she in denial and feeling guilty from representing her client? If she is spreading her belief in that theory, then if I had her ear, I'd ask why she thought that. Because if you believe someone committed suicide you'd prob. have that idea from your client. And your client would likely give a reason as to why he thought that. Bea and Bill O: Only an idiot would believe R. Wone committed suicide.

There’s nothing in the public record as we know it about his profile that would suggest his wanting to take his life. He’s like the “anti-suicide” poster person (aside from the fact that he wasn’t a contortionist or a super-being who could kill himself in the way he was murdered).

But there’s no reason to believe the woman is an idiot. So is she in denial and feeling guilty from representing her client? If she is spreading her belief in that theory, then if I had her ear, I’d ask why she thought that. Because if you believe someone committed suicide you’d prob. have that idea from your client. And your client would likely give a reason as to why he thought that.

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Comment on Leggy Investigator by Burke http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2012/05/14/leggy-investigator/comment-page-1/#comment-135385 Burke Wed, 16 May 2012 23:42:08 +0000 http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/?p=19117#comment-135385 More of the defendants throwing mud on the deceased. If there was a real suspicion of a suicide, it would have taken the three a nanosecond to say that to the police. Sounds as tho someone came up with this one when he or she was mentally airborne. More of the defendants throwing mud on the deceased. If there was a real suspicion of a suicide, it would have taken the three a nanosecond to say that to the police. Sounds as tho someone came up with this one when he or she was mentally airborne.

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Comment on Leggy Investigator by mw http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2012/05/14/leggy-investigator/comment-page-1/#comment-135373 mw Wed, 16 May 2012 21:59:13 +0000 http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/?p=19117#comment-135373 The most interesting thing about that Gary Webb article is the link to the wiki article about multiple gunshot suicides. It does happen. A bullet to the dead doesn't necessarily incapacitate you. I also did some quick research into multiple-chest stab suicides. That does happen too, though it's very rare. And it's a theory that has almost zero credibility coming fro ma defense investigator, of course. Still, WHATEVER happened that night in D.C. was an incredibly bizarre, unusual occurrence, so it's tough to just rule anything out. The most interesting thing about that Gary Webb article is the link to the wiki article about multiple gunshot suicides. It does happen. A bullet to the dead doesn’t necessarily incapacitate you.

I also did some quick research into multiple-chest stab suicides. That does happen too, though it’s very rare. And it’s a theory that has almost zero credibility coming fro ma defense investigator, of course. Still, WHATEVER happened that night in D.C. was an incredibly bizarre, unusual occurrence, so it’s tough to just rule anything out.

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Comment on Leggy Investigator by Bea http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2012/05/14/leggy-investigator/comment-page-1/#comment-135367 Bea Wed, 16 May 2012 21:02:18 +0000 http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/?p=19117#comment-135367 Bill O, your theory is the most logical in my mind, to have "the investigator" conclude that it had been a suicide as a help to Joe & Co. It wraps up why no one is looking for the "real killer" and elicits a sympathetic response: so sad for all involved, poor desperate man, and poor gay trouple victimized by an anti-gay prosecution. For people having absolutely NO information about the case, this might serve its purpose. For everybody else, it's so ridiculous as to be insulting. And I think it's also a really bad move for the defense to give up on the Ninja that served them so well. I'm just HOPING that it's not a ruse for making some argument that the defendants shouldn't have to pay under the settlement agreement - e.g. that it was Robert's intentional act and not their negligence or intentional actions which caused/resulted in his death. Personally I don't THINK this is the case as it would be ridiculous for the trouple to want this dust-up when they so badly want the dust to settle. Bill O, your theory is the most logical in my mind, to have “the investigator” conclude that it had been a suicide as a help to Joe & Co. It wraps up why no one is looking for the “real killer” and elicits a sympathetic response: so sad for all involved, poor desperate man, and poor gay trouple victimized by an anti-gay prosecution.

For people having absolutely NO information about the case, this might serve its purpose. For everybody else, it’s so ridiculous as to be insulting. And I think it’s also a really bad move for the defense to give up on the Ninja that served them so well.

I’m just HOPING that it’s not a ruse for making some argument that the defendants shouldn’t have to pay under the settlement agreement – e.g. that it was Robert’s intentional act and not their negligence or intentional actions which caused/resulted in his death. Personally I don’t THINK this is the case as it would be ridiculous for the trouple to want this dust-up when they so badly want the dust to settle.

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