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		<title>By: bonsource</title>
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		<dc:creator>bonsource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In theory, right on Agatha.  While many details will probably remain forever unknown (how, what, or when drugged,  willing or unwilling or somewhere in-between) I do believe this is a case of something going wrong and the cover-up was a &#039;staged&#039; murder that would most likely be classified as &quot;criminally negligent manslaughter&quot; (however I am no lawyer).  I cannot imagine his death was premeditated - the trail left behind would just be too difficult to cover up (the visit was planned, his wife packed a bag, records of emails and phone calls and the possibility of a taxi cab record).  Plus, no motive.  I imagine Price/Ward would have left Victor in the dark but as you indicate, he likely stumbled onto something and was drawn into the conspiracy.  Michael Price&#039;s involvement is a red herring . . . if Ward was afraid to enter the house after the subsequent burglary, I doubt he would have condoned including him in any of his &#039;play&#039; activity.  The delay in reporting that burglary just seems to be further evidence of Joe Price supporting his brother&#039;s bad habits - no mystery there.

As others, I am hopeful that someone (Victor?) will step up to the plate before the defense rests and closing arguments are made.  We have those to wade through plus the (self)instructions to the judge (which I believe will be reviewed by both sides prior to being delivered).  I also imagine a verdict will be delivered fairly soon as it seems the judge has been weighing the evidence as it has been presented.  Maybe Friday?  That would make a nice weekend for somebody . . . my guess, conspiracy and obstruction for all three with the possibility of tampering by Joe.

And of course, this is not over.  We have the civil suit to sit through.  That will proceed regardless of the verdict (they were smart to buy real estate in Florida).  It also seems that a lot more evidence could be introduced in that case since the burden of proof is lower (but see disclaimer above).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In theory, right on Agatha.  While many details will probably remain forever unknown (how, what, or when drugged,  willing or unwilling or somewhere in-between) I do believe this is a case of something going wrong and the cover-up was a &#8217;staged&#8217; murder that would most likely be classified as &#8220;criminally negligent manslaughter&#8221; (however I am no lawyer).  I cannot imagine his death was premeditated &#8211; the trail left behind would just be too difficult to cover up (the visit was planned, his wife packed a bag, records of emails and phone calls and the possibility of a taxi cab record).  Plus, no motive.  I imagine Price/Ward would have left Victor in the dark but as you indicate, he likely stumbled onto something and was drawn into the conspiracy.  Michael Price&#8217;s involvement is a red herring . . . if Ward was afraid to enter the house after the subsequent burglary, I doubt he would have condoned including him in any of his &#8216;play&#8217; activity.  The delay in reporting that burglary just seems to be further evidence of Joe Price supporting his brother&#8217;s bad habits &#8211; no mystery there.</p>
<p>As others, I am hopeful that someone (Victor?) will step up to the plate before the defense rests and closing arguments are made.  We have those to wade through plus the (self)instructions to the judge (which I believe will be reviewed by both sides prior to being delivered).  I also imagine a verdict will be delivered fairly soon as it seems the judge has been weighing the evidence as it has been presented.  Maybe Friday?  That would make a nice weekend for somebody . . . my guess, conspiracy and obstruction for all three with the possibility of tampering by Joe.</p>
<p>And of course, this is not over.  We have the civil suit to sit through.  That will proceed regardless of the verdict (they were smart to buy real estate in Florida).  It also seems that a lot more evidence could be introduced in that case since the burden of proof is lower (but see disclaimer above).</p>
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		<title>By: Agatha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bea - 

Reading old posts - I think your description is exactly what happened.  I would also add that I believe the key events started at 6:30 p.m. or earlier - as Sarah knew it was time to leave and then Victor unexpectedly arrived home early.  

It started in Dylan&#039;s room with possibly Joe and possibly one more person &#039;exercising&#039;.  They have to take a break - for showers - because Victor was coming home early.  Dylan tells Victor that Joe is at the gym to give them more clean up time - as Victor didn&#039;t see Joe at the gym.  Returning home quickly - Victor finds Joe and Dylan freshly showered.  

Together they attempt to make dinner as a group - burning steaks in the meantime - a clear indication there was some type of disruptor in the midst - drugs, alcohol or an emotional disturbance.

Robert Wone unfortunately arrives to a drugged up house with at least Price and Ward high on something; wired from earlier activities and frustrated that they were interrupted by Victor coming home early.  Drugged, wired, frustrated - a perfect storm to attack an innocent person.  

Since all of the &#039;play&#039; equipment may have been out ... all they needed to do was drug Wone&#039;s water and start again.    

If it was Ketamine - this one website (see below) says, &quot;in 10-20 minutes you may find yourself hardly able to move.&quot;  Following this time line - Wone arrives at 10:30 p.m. and is served a glass of water with K.  By 10:40 p.m. or 10:50 p.m. Wone is already upstairs being shown his room and shower and by then the drugs effects kick in.  Additional K is administered to Wone by needles to keep him out.

Price and Ward possibly assault Wone and take photographs all on the playmat. However, as a result of a large dose of Ketamine - this site is saying - there is a &#039;decreased respiration&#039; and the effects wear off between 45 minutes to 90 minutes.  If that was the case with Wone - between 10:45 p.m and 11:30 p.m. he would have been effectively drugged.  

However, with the assault and low respiration - perhaps Price and Ward felt he overdosed and died.  Stabbing him and drain him of all of his blood ... so no one would be able to say that Wone was drugged and assaulted.  Not that this makes sense - but if someone was high - in their heads the evidence of the crime is in the blood - and they need to get rid of the blood.  Stabbing was supposed to be the decoy - not realizing that the stabbing was the cause of death.

I do believe only one person stabbed Wone and most likely Price.  It was at this time that Wone unconsciously gasped - probably just like Price described - as he was dying.  

Victor - realizes something is wrong - goes downstairs and sees the blood and more.   And the coverup begins between all three men.   And, they certainly do not call 911 until they know there is no more breath in Robert Wone.  

It would be possible in 20-30 minutes between the three of them to roll up the playmat with the knife, cameras, towels, their clothes, etc. and possibly store it in Sarah&#039;s apartment until they can get rid of it or ... have Michael come by and remove it.  Take showers one more time that night - one on the patio, one in the upstairs bathroom and the other in the master bath and be ready to call 911 at 11:49.  Whomever took the shower on the patio ... picked up the extra kitchen knife to stage the scene.

It wasn&#039;t until later - that Price, Ward confirmed that Wone was dead and they realized that Wone died of the stab wounds - not the drug overdose as they originally thought.

If Sarah is a tenant as Price emphasized and not a family member as Sarah considered herself  ... wouldn&#039;t the police need a separate search warrant to search her apartment.  Does anyone know the answer to this question?  

Plus - with Price&#039;s call to Sarah in the morning saying &quot;Don&#039;t go home!&quot; ... instead meet at the police station ... someone had time to remove the playmat.

Reading this Ketamine page - was eerie and brought a little bit of sense to this whole story.  This is where more alert police work would be helpful.  If it is obvious the stab wounds are so precise and their are no defensive wounds ... testing for K should be a priority.  

Here is the page- http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/ketamine/effects.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bea &#8211; </p>
<p>Reading old posts &#8211; I think your description is exactly what happened.  I would also add that I believe the key events started at 6:30 p.m. or earlier &#8211; as Sarah knew it was time to leave and then Victor unexpectedly arrived home early.  </p>
<p>It started in Dylan&#8217;s room with possibly Joe and possibly one more person &#8216;exercising&#8217;.  They have to take a break &#8211; for showers &#8211; because Victor was coming home early.  Dylan tells Victor that Joe is at the gym to give them more clean up time &#8211; as Victor didn&#8217;t see Joe at the gym.  Returning home quickly &#8211; Victor finds Joe and Dylan freshly showered.  </p>
<p>Together they attempt to make dinner as a group &#8211; burning steaks in the meantime &#8211; a clear indication there was some type of disruptor in the midst &#8211; drugs, alcohol or an emotional disturbance.</p>
<p>Robert Wone unfortunately arrives to a drugged up house with at least Price and Ward high on something; wired from earlier activities and frustrated that they were interrupted by Victor coming home early.  Drugged, wired, frustrated &#8211; a perfect storm to attack an innocent person.  </p>
<p>Since all of the &#8216;play&#8217; equipment may have been out &#8230; all they needed to do was drug Wone&#8217;s water and start again.    </p>
<p>If it was Ketamine &#8211; this one website (see below) says, &#8220;in 10-20 minutes you may find yourself hardly able to move.&#8221;  Following this time line &#8211; Wone arrives at 10:30 p.m. and is served a glass of water with K.  By 10:40 p.m. or 10:50 p.m. Wone is already upstairs being shown his room and shower and by then the drugs effects kick in.  Additional K is administered to Wone by needles to keep him out.</p>
<p>Price and Ward possibly assault Wone and take photographs all on the playmat. However, as a result of a large dose of Ketamine &#8211; this site is saying &#8211; there is a &#8216;decreased respiration&#8217; and the effects wear off between 45 minutes to 90 minutes.  If that was the case with Wone &#8211; between 10:45 p.m and 11:30 p.m. he would have been effectively drugged.  </p>
<p>However, with the assault and low respiration &#8211; perhaps Price and Ward felt he overdosed and died.  Stabbing him and drain him of all of his blood &#8230; so no one would be able to say that Wone was drugged and assaulted.  Not that this makes sense &#8211; but if someone was high &#8211; in their heads the evidence of the crime is in the blood &#8211; and they need to get rid of the blood.  Stabbing was supposed to be the decoy &#8211; not realizing that the stabbing was the cause of death.</p>
<p>I do believe only one person stabbed Wone and most likely Price.  It was at this time that Wone unconsciously gasped &#8211; probably just like Price described &#8211; as he was dying.  </p>
<p>Victor &#8211; realizes something is wrong &#8211; goes downstairs and sees the blood and more.   And the coverup begins between all three men.   And, they certainly do not call 911 until they know there is no more breath in Robert Wone.  </p>
<p>It would be possible in 20-30 minutes between the three of them to roll up the playmat with the knife, cameras, towels, their clothes, etc. and possibly store it in Sarah&#8217;s apartment until they can get rid of it or &#8230; have Michael come by and remove it.  Take showers one more time that night &#8211; one on the patio, one in the upstairs bathroom and the other in the master bath and be ready to call 911 at 11:49.  Whomever took the shower on the patio &#8230; picked up the extra kitchen knife to stage the scene.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t until later &#8211; that Price, Ward confirmed that Wone was dead and they realized that Wone died of the stab wounds &#8211; not the drug overdose as they originally thought.</p>
<p>If Sarah is a tenant as Price emphasized and not a family member as Sarah considered herself  &#8230; wouldn&#8217;t the police need a separate search warrant to search her apartment.  Does anyone know the answer to this question?  </p>
<p>Plus &#8211; with Price&#8217;s call to Sarah in the morning saying &#8220;Don&#8217;t go home!&#8221; &#8230; instead meet at the police station &#8230; someone had time to remove the playmat.</p>
<p>Reading this Ketamine page &#8211; was eerie and brought a little bit of sense to this whole story.  This is where more alert police work would be helpful.  If it is obvious the stab wounds are so precise and their are no defensive wounds &#8230; testing for K should be a priority.  </p>
<p>Here is the page- <a href="http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/ketamine/effects.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/ketamine/effects.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 09:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all who said Joe was not powerful.  Typical attorney?  Absolutely.  He knew enough about how the legal system works to behave the way he has while remaining smug. A typical smug attorney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all who said Joe was not powerful.  Typical attorney?  Absolutely.  He knew enough about how the legal system works to behave the way he has while remaining smug. A typical smug attorney.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was bled to near death.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.</description>
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		<title>By: CDinDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CDinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why wouldn&#039;t he have just masturbated in the bathroom?  In the shower.  Ridiculous theory.  Done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t he have just masturbated in the bathroom?  In the shower.  Ridiculous theory.  Done.</p>
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		<title>By: CDinDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CDinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might add that I understand that this isn&#039;t a murder trial, but the components of this case and tightly woven with a murder.  The handling of this case is the same as a murder trial (i.e., collection of evidence, forensics, ME, etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might add that I understand that this isn&#8217;t a murder trial, but the components of this case and tightly woven with a murder.  The handling of this case is the same as a murder trial (i.e., collection of evidence, forensics, ME, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: CDinDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CDinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clio says:  &quot;I disagree with CD, though, in that Joe was/is more powerful than most criminal defendants because he was, as he boasted to Folts, a white-collar defense attorney.&quot;

I see your point, Clio.  Knowing SOME ins and outs of the criminal system may have given him some insight on how to manipulate the crime to his advantage.

I do, however, want to point out that Joe&#039;s resume regarding criminal work is scanty at best.  He was mainly an IP attorney.  Civil litigation is whole other planet from criminal law.  From my research into his cases, I&#039;ve come up with little to nothing regarding criminal proceedings, except for a conspiracy/exportation case in which he defended Allied Telesis.

Perhaps he knew a little about defense  of conspiracy cases, but we&#039;re talking murder here.  Joe has never tried a murder case.  This is virgin territory for Joe.  And, there is a pretty big learning curve for new territory.

Knowledgeable, yes.  Powerful?  Not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clio says:  &#8220;I disagree with CD, though, in that Joe was/is more powerful than most criminal defendants because he was, as he boasted to Folts, a white-collar defense attorney.&#8221;</p>
<p>I see your point, Clio.  Knowing SOME ins and outs of the criminal system may have given him some insight on how to manipulate the crime to his advantage.</p>
<p>I do, however, want to point out that Joe&#8217;s resume regarding criminal work is scanty at best.  He was mainly an IP attorney.  Civil litigation is whole other planet from criminal law.  From my research into his cases, I&#8217;ve come up with little to nothing regarding criminal proceedings, except for a conspiracy/exportation case in which he defended Allied Telesis.</p>
<p>Perhaps he knew a little about defense  of conspiracy cases, but we&#8217;re talking murder here.  Joe has never tried a murder case.  This is virgin territory for Joe.  And, there is a pretty big learning curve for new territory.</p>
<p>Knowledgeable, yes.  Powerful?  Not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Clio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, David, his moniker &quot;Culuket&quot; will be the only useable evidence for ketamine use on Mr. Price&#039;s part.  Sigh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, David, his moniker &#8220;Culuket&#8221; will be the only useable evidence for ketamine use on Mr. Price&#8217;s part.  Sigh!</p>
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		<title>By: Clio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with AZ that the idea of Joe collaborating with a pro-gay, velvet syndicate within DC law enforcement is pure poppycock.

I disagree with CD, though, in that Joe was/is more powerful than most criminal defendants because he was, as he boasted to Folts, a white-collar defense attorney.  Knowing the law made him more powerful (and made him seem more powerful to himself) in the opening stages of this tragedy, but, as Bea has pointed out, only fools serve as their own counsel.  So, a seeming defense asset is an ultimate Achilles&#039; heel: just keep yammering away, underwear guy!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with AZ that the idea of Joe collaborating with a pro-gay, velvet syndicate within DC law enforcement is pure poppycock.</p>
<p>I disagree with CD, though, in that Joe was/is more powerful than most criminal defendants because he was, as he boasted to Folts, a white-collar defense attorney.  Knowing the law made him more powerful (and made him seem more powerful to himself) in the opening stages of this tragedy, but, as Bea has pointed out, only fools serve as their own counsel.  So, a seeming defense asset is an ultimate Achilles&#8217; heel: just keep yammering away, underwear guy!!</p>
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