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		<title>By: Robert A Spiegel, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/2009/03/03/fear-and-loathing-on-swann-street/comment-page-1/#comment-7643</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert A Spiegel, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LANCE
Native New Yorker, I have had a subscription to
&quot;New Yorker&quot; at various times in my life.  Granted
that pose in New Yorker cartoon is not evidence &amp;
does not prove guilt or innocence of Ward, Price or
Zaborsky.  But it is curious coincidence of interest.

RIDICULOUS
Two &amp; half years after the killing of Robert Wone,
authorities appear not to have enough evidence
for the indictment of Ward, Price or Zaborsky.
Though I have been both prosecutor &amp; defense
lawyer, I am not in any position to prove guilt or innocence.  What I can say is highly unusual has
been publication of affidavit itemizing evidence
suggesting guilt of any crime by any person in any
case.  While it is true that affidavit does not prove
guilt, I believe I believe publication of affidavit by
law enforcement authorties a/w/a Kathy Wone&#039;s
institution of civil suit prior to the conclusion of
the criminal case are gambits to persuade one or
more of Swann Street residents to come forward
with any evidence bearing on the case of which
they may be aware.  I don&#039;t know what they know.


Published affidavit does not tell us which -- if any -
- of those in question may be guilty of murder tho
affidavit does suggest obstruction of justice as well
as evidence tampering.  Even those charges have
yet to be proved though affidavit would probably
not have been drafted -- let alone published -- if
authorities did not believe it provided reasonable
evidence of guilt.  That does not prove charges.


JACKSON
Though it is true that Wone wore mouth guard as matter of course, the introduction of item raises
question as to whether Robert was anticipating
sexual encounter.  Many people -- Straight as well
as Gay -- do not find mouth guards particularly
appealing when it comes to engaging in oral sex.

However, I could see that some S&amp;Mers might be
&quot;turned on&quot; by bite plate clenching sexual organ &amp;
thereby causing desirable degree of pain.  My not
being expert on the subject of S&amp;M, I do not know
the extent of this practice.  Perhaps others could
enlighten us about the popularity of technique.

CONNECT THE DOTS
Admittedly, I share skepticism of many regarding
the intruder theory.  I have expounded on this
subject elsewhere in another post.  Most of my
hypotheses about this case were expressed prior to
release of evidence following murder &amp; therefore
were uninfluenced by same.  That does not make
me correct in this or any other of my theories.
However, I do think it worth noting that at time
Ward, Price and Zaborsky first advanced intruder
theory -- when police first arrived on the scene --
even Ward, Price and Zaborsky stated that they
regarded their own assertion that intruder was
responsible as &quot;implausible.  Though I happen to
agree with the three gentleman in this, please note
that has consistently been &quot;their&quot; characterization!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LANCE<br />
Native New Yorker, I have had a subscription to<br />
&#8220;New Yorker&#8221; at various times in my life.  Granted<br />
that pose in New Yorker cartoon is not evidence &amp;<br />
does not prove guilt or innocence of Ward, Price or<br />
Zaborsky.  But it is curious coincidence of interest.</p>
<p>RIDICULOUS<br />
Two &amp; half years after the killing of Robert Wone,<br />
authorities appear not to have enough evidence<br />
for the indictment of Ward, Price or Zaborsky.<br />
Though I have been both prosecutor &amp; defense<br />
lawyer, I am not in any position to prove guilt or innocence.  What I can say is highly unusual has<br />
been publication of affidavit itemizing evidence<br />
suggesting guilt of any crime by any person in any<br />
case.  While it is true that affidavit does not prove<br />
guilt, I believe I believe publication of affidavit by<br />
law enforcement authorties a/w/a Kathy Wone&#8217;s<br />
institution of civil suit prior to the conclusion of<br />
the criminal case are gambits to persuade one or<br />
more of Swann Street residents to come forward<br />
with any evidence bearing on the case of which<br />
they may be aware.  I don&#8217;t know what they know.</p>
<p>Published affidavit does not tell us which &#8212; if any -<br />
- of those in question may be guilty of murder tho<br />
affidavit does suggest obstruction of justice as well<br />
as evidence tampering.  Even those charges have<br />
yet to be proved though affidavit would probably<br />
not have been drafted &#8212; let alone published &#8212; if<br />
authorities did not believe it provided reasonable<br />
evidence of guilt.  That does not prove charges.</p>
<p>JACKSON<br />
Though it is true that Wone wore mouth guard as matter of course, the introduction of item raises<br />
question as to whether Robert was anticipating<br />
sexual encounter.  Many people &#8212; Straight as well<br />
as Gay &#8212; do not find mouth guards particularly<br />
appealing when it comes to engaging in oral sex.</p>
<p>However, I could see that some S&amp;Mers might be<br />
&#8220;turned on&#8221; by bite plate clenching sexual organ &amp;<br />
thereby causing desirable degree of pain.  My not<br />
being expert on the subject of S&amp;M, I do not know<br />
the extent of this practice.  Perhaps others could<br />
enlighten us about the popularity of technique.</p>
<p>CONNECT THE DOTS<br />
Admittedly, I share skepticism of many regarding<br />
the intruder theory.  I have expounded on this<br />
subject elsewhere in another post.  Most of my<br />
hypotheses about this case were expressed prior to<br />
release of evidence following murder &amp; therefore<br />
were uninfluenced by same.  That does not make<br />
me correct in this or any other of my theories.<br />
However, I do think it worth noting that at time<br />
Ward, Price and Zaborsky first advanced intruder<br />
theory &#8212; when police first arrived on the scene &#8211;<br />
even Ward, Price and Zaborsky stated that they<br />
regarded their own assertion that intruder was<br />
responsible as &#8220;implausible.  Though I happen to<br />
agree with the three gentleman in this, please note<br />
that has consistently been &#8220;their&#8221; characterization!</p>
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		<title>By: CDinDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CDinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, SDI....well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, SDI&#8230;.well said.</p>
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		<title>By: She did it</title>
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		<dc:creator>She did it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>connect the dots,

darling, your disgust is so misplaced.

one would hope that you would be most disgusted at the person (s) responsible for this murder and/or its cover-up.  this site seeks to shine a light on these persons; including but not limited to those who are currently charged with participating in a cover-up conspiracy.  sweetheart, tell us of the disgust you have for ms. joe price, who has allegedly done very little to assist you and your friends in finding the real killer.  are you more disgusted with price; or with those interested in solving the case.  you gave us your opinion on the bloggers, now sit on the couch and tell us what you feel in your head and heart about the three men currently charged.  the floor is your, connect the dots . . .  was yours just a drive-by posting, or do you have an interest in answers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>connect the dots,</p>
<p>darling, your disgust is so misplaced.</p>
<p>one would hope that you would be most disgusted at the person (s) responsible for this murder and/or its cover-up.  this site seeks to shine a light on these persons; including but not limited to those who are currently charged with participating in a cover-up conspiracy.  sweetheart, tell us of the disgust you have for ms. joe price, who has allegedly done very little to assist you and your friends in finding the real killer.  are you more disgusted with price; or with those interested in solving the case.  you gave us your opinion on the bloggers, now sit on the couch and tell us what you feel in your head and heart about the three men currently charged.  the floor is your, connect the dots . . .  was yours just a drive-by posting, or do you have an interest in answers?</p>
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		<title>By: connect the dots</title>
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		<dc:creator>connect the dots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to fisrt express my disgust with the 4 men that have taken a horrific death of a wonderful human being that I had the chance to cross his path over the years that he was at W&amp;M and then a few times after that. I only met his wife once but all was good. To treat this horrible moment in life as nothing more than a Clue Game where people are the &quot;Players&quot; or some warped AD&amp;D game is repolsive, you should be ashamed and emmbarassed to show your attention seaking self serving faces any place in public or have the guts to look your selves in the mirrior in the morning. That bad taste is the puke you just through up in your mouths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to fisrt express my disgust with the 4 men that have taken a horrific death of a wonderful human being that I had the chance to cross his path over the years that he was at W&amp;M and then a few times after that. I only met his wife once but all was good. To treat this horrible moment in life as nothing more than a Clue Game where people are the &#8220;Players&#8221; or some warped AD&amp;D game is repolsive, you should be ashamed and emmbarassed to show your attention seaking self serving faces any place in public or have the guts to look your selves in the mirrior in the morning. That bad taste is the puke you just through up in your mouths.</p>
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		<title>By: On Deadline &#171; Who Murdered Robert Wone?</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Deadline &#171; Who Murdered Robert Wone?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] found in Dylan Ward&#8217;s bedroom.  In addition to Ralph Steadman&#8217;s daring Shakespeare centerfold, the August 7, 2006  New Yorker is loaded with good reads. We&#8217;re subscribers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] found in Dylan Ward&#8217;s bedroom.  In addition to Ralph Steadman&#8217;s daring Shakespeare centerfold, the August 7, 2006  New Yorker is loaded with good reads. We&#8217;re subscribers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert A Spiegel, Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert A Spiegel, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shakespeare:  &quot;He thinks to much, such men are dangerous.&quot;  Julius Caesar referring to Cassius.

Given my background in academia, training as a lawyer and life of human rights activism, that is what people seem to have always said about me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shakespeare:  &#8220;He thinks to much, such men are dangerous.&#8221;  Julius Caesar referring to Cassius.</p>
<p>Given my background in academia, training as a lawyer and life of human rights activism, that is what people seem to have always said about me!</p>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All roads lead back to Dylan Ward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All roads lead back to Dylan Ward.</p>
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		<title>By: N.M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>N.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The critical question to me is &quot;how similar.&quot;  I originally thought the New Yorker was simply on the floor and the picture in question was the front cover, with Shakespeare lying on his back.  There&#039;s nothing so unusual about that - its how people are laid in coffins in general, so I wouldn&#039;t make much of the connection to the magazine.

If, however, the body was laid out according to this drawing, with the left foot tucked behind the right ankle, and the index fingers on both hands outstretched / pointing - then yeah, that&#039;s pretty damn significant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The critical question to me is &#8220;how similar.&#8221;  I originally thought the New Yorker was simply on the floor and the picture in question was the front cover, with Shakespeare lying on his back.  There&#8217;s nothing so unusual about that &#8211; its how people are laid in coffins in general, so I wouldn&#8217;t make much of the connection to the magazine.</p>
<p>If, however, the body was laid out according to this drawing, with the left foot tucked behind the right ankle, and the index fingers on both hands outstretched / pointing &#8211; then yeah, that&#8217;s pretty damn significant.</p>
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		<title>By: N.M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>N.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a focus on self fratification&quot; - if that&#039;s a typo, its still perfect.  Among other things, it describes Jud Apatow&#039;s entire body of work.  I&#039;ll be using this term liberally from now on - thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a focus on self fratification&#8221; &#8211; if that&#8217;s a typo, its still perfect.  Among other things, it describes Jud Apatow&#8217;s entire body of work.  I&#8217;ll be using this term liberally from now on &#8211; thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting--I&#039;d actually just been trying to find the image, without any luck.  I&#039;m glad y&#039;all posted it.

My feeling about it:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Moreover, it wouldn’t be a leap to speculate about why Dylan Ward would be interested in reading such an article.  [...]
Whether or not this article had anything to do with Robert Wone’s murder is up for debate. [...]
take a look and see if there is anything to this piece evidence cited by MPD.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that &quot;why Dylan Ward would be interested&quot; is simple enough to explain: he&#039;s the sort of intellectual who reads the New Yorker, so he&#039;s likely to want to read the articles in it in general and a John Updike article in particular.

It seems like it&#039;d be nothing more than a coincidence, unless there&#039;s specific reason to think it&#039;s not.  According to the MPD, the reason it&#039;s relevant is that the body in the illustration is &quot;positioned similar to the way Mr. Wone’s body was positioned when it was found&quot;.   Now that I know that the drawing&#039;s by Ralph Steadman, I&#039;m not sure how you&#039;d get anybody into that pose without breaking half their bones....  But in truth, if the key fact here is that the pose in the illustration and the pose Wone was found in are similar, the illustration on its own isn&#039;t helpful in judging the situation.  Is there a real similarity, or was the MPD reading too much into it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8211;I&#8217;d actually just been trying to find the image, without any luck.  I&#8217;m glad y&#8217;all posted it.</p>
<p>My feeling about it:</p>
<blockquote><p>Moreover, it wouldn’t be a leap to speculate about why Dylan Ward would be interested in reading such an article.  [...]<br />
Whether or not this article had anything to do with Robert Wone’s murder is up for debate. [...]<br />
take a look and see if there is anything to this piece evidence cited by MPD.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that &#8220;why Dylan Ward would be interested&#8221; is simple enough to explain: he&#8217;s the sort of intellectual who reads the New Yorker, so he&#8217;s likely to want to read the articles in it in general and a John Updike article in particular.</p>
<p>It seems like it&#8217;d be nothing more than a coincidence, unless there&#8217;s specific reason to think it&#8217;s not.  According to the MPD, the reason it&#8217;s relevant is that the body in the illustration is &#8220;positioned similar to the way Mr. Wone’s body was positioned when it was found&#8221;.   Now that I know that the drawing&#8217;s by Ralph Steadman, I&#8217;m not sure how you&#8217;d get anybody into that pose without breaking half their bones&#8230;.  But in truth, if the key fact here is that the pose in the illustration and the pose Wone was found in are similar, the illustration on its own isn&#8217;t helpful in judging the situation.  Is there a real similarity, or was the MPD reading too much into it?</p>
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